1500 Year Old Bible Claims Jesus Christ Was Not Crucified – Vatican In Awe

[Jon88]

Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara.

Read more at http://higherperspective.com/2014/0...rucified-vatican-awe.html#RbKhdFKI7i8ovWXE.99
Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

A report by The National Turk says that the Bible was seized from a gang of smugglers in a Mediterranean-area operation. The report states the gang was charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations, and the possession of explosives. The books itself is valued as high as 40 Million Turkish Liras (approx. 28 mil. Dollars). Man, where is the Thieves Guild, when you need them?

Authenticity

According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.

The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity. Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.

It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.



The Catholic Church wants in

What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers? Quite a tight spot. The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church. Now that the book has been found, will they come to accept the it and its evidence? Will they deny it altogether? Call it a “Muslim lie”, as did the “Truth” Magazine, in 2000?

To many, this book is a beacon of hope, that believers soon realize that the object of their adoration is arbitrary; and that all text, especially religious text, is subject to interpretation.

What does this mean to atheists/agnostics/secular thinkers? Is the text real? Fake? Does it matter? Hopefully, this news inspires the religious to ask questions, instead of pointing fingers or believing anything blindly.

Please, don’t go poking fun or tossing around the “I told you so!”s. The biggest danger of faith is when people believe what they want to believe, defending against any and all evidence; especially when that evidence revolutionizes their foundation from the ground up. And the biggest culprit to that danger is the ego trap: rejecting/criticizing others, for being unlike you.

For centuries, the “defense” of blind faith has driven nations to war, violence, discrimination, slavery and to become the society of automatons that we are today; and for just as long, it has been justified with lies. If you know better, act like it.

This article originally appeared on Sons on the Pyre

National Turk Report

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[Jon88]

Who knew child molesters would lie too?

Beats anything I've seen.

 

[CobraKai]

It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.

It's not "believed" - that's what fucking happened.

I don't see how this is a problem, in light of that. Ancient storybooks contradict each other - what else is new? If you do any studying at all, you know there are parts of the gospel that were added much later (like the Pericope adulterae), gospels were left out, and the ones that stayed in contradict each other already. So for anyone who can swallow all that, new things like this are much ado about nothing. Most Christians will never even hear about this. Of the ones that do, a huge percentage will never take the time to study and analyze it to see what all the fuss is about. The rest will either rationalize it so they can swallow it, or add it to the pile of things they see wrong on their way out the door. Faith is about feelings, not facts.

 

[Jon88]

There was also a gospel left out that said right after Jesus was crucified he rose into heaven and the cross started talking.

True story. Look it up. They were like "We already want them to believe in talking snakes and bushes. No way they're gonna buy this."

 

[VTA]

You people will believe anything to avoid believing the truth.

 

[CobraKai]

wut is troof

 

[VTA]

A rotten tooth.

 

[CobraKai]

"Do I still have to add that in the entire New Testament there is only one solitary figure one is obliged to respect? Pilate, the Roman governor. To take a Jewish affair seriously - he cannot persuade himself to do that. One Jew more or less - what does it matter ?... The noble scorn of a Roman before whom an impudent misuse of the word 'truth' was carried on has enriched the New Testament with the only expression which possesses value - which is its criticism, its annihilation even: 'What is truth?..."

 

[VTA]

Yes, let's all respect Rome, who after 300 years of killing Christians miraculously became 'Christian'. The fruits of that adoption are borne out wonderfully in the Catholic church. At least they didn't pretend in Pilate's day.

(Angry homo's are poor sources for theological exegesis.)

 

[CobraKai]

Pilate =/= Rome

 

[Hoofbite]

I wonder how many books with contradicting stories are out there. Or where out there. I imagine many were tossed out or discarded at some point or another.

 

[VTA]

They were already around during Paul's ministry. He references false doctrine in his letters to the Galatians and chides them for falling for it. I'm sure as time passed it became easier to inject these things into churches, it's why Catholicism and other non-biblical forms have had such success.

 

[Jon88]

In one gospel they left out there was a story about how Jesus was making clay human figurines when he was a kid and then he turned them into birds who flew away. They left that out in favor of the snake, burning bush, and ark story.

 

[Midswat]

Pretty sure that was a scene out of Golden Child.

 

[Jon88]

Infancy Gospel of Thomas

"This child Jesus, when five years old, was playing in the ford of a mountain stream; and He collected the flowing waters into pools, and made them clear immediately, and by a word alone He made them obey Him. And having made some soft clay, He fashioned out of it twelve sparrows. And it was the Sabbath when He did these things. And there were also many other children playing with Him. And a certain Jew, seeing what Jesus was doing, playing on the Sabbath, went off immediately, and said to his father Joseph: Behold, your son is at the stream, and has taken clay, and made of it twelve birds, and has profaned the Sabbath. And Joseph, coming to the place and seeing, cried out to Him, saying: Why do you do on the Sabbath what it is not lawful to do? And Jesus clapped His hands, and cried out to the sparrows, and said to them: Off you go! And the sparrows flew, and went off crying. And the Jews seeing this were amazed, and went away and reported to their chief men what they had seen Jesus doing."

The Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Saviour

36. Now, when the Lord Jesus had completed seven years from His birth, on a certain day He was occupied with boys of His own age. For they were playing among clay, from which they were making images of asses, oxen, birds, and other animals; and each one boasting of his skill, was praising his own work. Then the Lord Jesus said to the boys: The images that I have made I will order to walk. The boys asked Him whether then he were the son of the Creator; and the Lord Jesus bade them walk. And they immediately began to leap; and then, when He had given them leave, they again stood still. And He had made figures of birds and sparrows, which flew when He told them to fly, and stood still when He told them to stand, and ate and drank when He handed them food and drink. After the boys had gone away and told this to their parents, their fathers said to them: My sons, take care not to keep company with him again, for he is a wizard: flee from him, therefore, and avoid him, and do not play with him again after this.

The Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Savior

46. Again, on another day, the Lord Jesus was with the boys at a stream of water, and they had again made little fish-ponds. And the Lord Jesus had made twelve sparrows, and had arranged them round His fish-pond, three on each side. And it was the Sabbath-day. Wherefore a Jew, the son of Hanan, coming up, and seeing them thus engaged, said in anger and great indignation: Do you make figures of clay on the Sabbath-day? And he ran quickly, and destroyed their fish-ponds. But when the Lord Jesus clapped His hands over the sparrows which He had made, they flew away chirping.

 

[CobraKai]

They were already around during Paul's ministry. He references false doctrine in his letters to the Galatians and chides them for falling for it. I'm sure as time passed it became easier to inject these things into churches, it's why Catholicism and other non-biblical forms have had such success.

Of course why should anyone trust "Paul" about anything? A man who never met Jesus, clashed with the Apostle Peter, and whose entire ministry was based on the idea that he was temporarily "blinded" by the Lord on a road trip? And whose writings wouldn't be canon if the effing Catholic Church didn't decide they were?

You got a twisted view of history, son.

 

[Midswat]

Everyone knows you don't turn clay into sparrows on the sabbath! Get yo shit together Jesus!

 

[Midswat]

I I I ah I .... Want the knife....

Please

 

[Midswat]

Back to the op who was the moron that thought it'd be smart to write on brown paper amirite?!

 

[Jon88]

http://www.gospel-mysteries.net/lost-gospels.html

Ancient writers mentioned a number of other gospels which they knew about, but which apparently no longer survive. These include the Gospel of Matthias, the Gospel of Perfection, the Gospel of the Seventy, the Dialogue of the Savior, the Gospel of the Twelve, the Gospel of the Hebrews, the Gospel of the Nazarenes, the Gospel of Bartholomew, the Secret Gospel of Mark, and the Gospel of Eve. Other gospels may have also existed, but even their names have been lost.

Some early gospels may have vanished because they were secret gospels and very few copies were made. Others could have been lost due to wars, conquests, upheavals, and persecutions. In addition, there have been accusations that early church leaders intentionally destroyed some gospels in order to cover up embarrassing facts about the origins of Christianity. Some intentional destruction did take place, but exactly what was lost can't be determined.

The Gospel of Peter

One intriguing part of this gospel is its account of the exit of Jesus from the tomb. This exit takes place during the night as some Roman soldiers stand guard nearby. Suddenly the soldiers see two men (or angels) descend from heaven and enter the tomb. A short time later the men come back out with Jesus between them. At this point the men look so tall that their heads reach to the sky, and Jesus looks even taller. They are followed out of the tomb by a cross. Suddenly the soldiers hear a voice from heaven, and the cross answers it.

The description of this scene puzzles many people, since it appears to depict a wooden cross that can walk and talk. But some scholars think that the passage is actually describing a cross-like formation of resurrected saints who have returned to life along with Jesus and follow him out of the tomb. A few scholars also see connections between this account and a passage at Matthew 27:52-53, which describes a similar resurrection of dead saints.



The Gospel of Judas

The only extant copy of this gospel was found in Egypt, but the time and place of its discovery are uncertain, and there are indications that it passed through the Egyptian black market at one stage.

The existing copy is a Coptic text, probably a translation of a still-lost Greek original. Unfortunately the manuscript is damaged in many places, and some pages are missing, so that translation and interpretation are difficult. However, many scholars believe that it was a secret gospel used mostly by certain gnostic sects of Christians.

This gospel is notable in that it may depict Judas Iscariot as the most loyal disciple of Jesus, and an innocent martyr instead of an evil betrayer. But because of the damage to the manuscript, and the difficulties of interpretation, there is some uncertainty about this matter. In any case, this is one of the later gospels, probably not written until the second century, and most scholars doubt that it contains any authentic information about the real Judas Iscariot.