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There is a video online now showing the actual crash. I am not a pilot but it looks to me like the plane came down too hard and the landing gear broke off. Then the wings clipped the ground and the plane flipped over. It looks like pilot error to me.
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It smacks the snow pretty hard. Snow, not tarmac.
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So... My old algebra teacher who flew jets in Korea and has flown all his life and I, did forensic picking of the video and we've concluded:
1.) Plane is coming in slightly too steep even though the plane itself is flat. Nose should have been up a little more.
2.) Before it hits the deck we see the left hand winglet fly up - which means the 40 knot crosswind got under it, lifted it and twists the whole plane to the right making right hand wing smack the deck right before the still twisting fuselage does. Left wing comes all the way over and smacks the deck on the right side too, as the airframe continues to twist.
Col. Heatherly's verdict: pilot error.
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Col. Heatherly and I after seeing the crash from behind and from the other side, now believe we simply have a way too hard smack into the runway causing collapse of the starboard landing gear. Wind then got under the port wing and flipped the plane over as it slid up the runway. This is verified looking again at the first video and seeing the port winglet flop down sharply before it springs up violently.
Plain and simple, the pilot just flew it into the ground. Which was Col. Heatherly's original kneejerk statement. He flew for over 60 years.
Plain and simple, the pilot just flew it into the ground. Which was Col. Heatherly's original kneejerk statement. He flew for over 60 years.
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Those people are fortunate to be alive today, it could have easily been a mass casualty event.
I absolutely believe companies that promote DEI should be charged criminally when the hiring of substandard people caused injury or loss of life. I don't want unqualified people flying or repairing my planes...driving my train....performing my surgeries, putting out my fires or EMT work. I want people who are proven to be the best of the best and extremely gifted...anything less than that is 100% criminal IMO and these people who are pushing this agenda should be held accountable.
I absolutely believe companies that promote DEI should be charged criminally when the hiring of substandard people caused injury or loss of life. I don't want unqualified people flying or repairing my planes...driving my train....performing my surgeries, putting out my fires or EMT work. I want people who are proven to be the best of the best and extremely gifted...anything less than that is 100% criminal IMO and these people who are pushing this agenda should be held accountable.
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And that's all it is, just dumb luck that the wings snapped off as the fuel in them ignited, and that the fuselage stayed intact. Belly tank caught fire but there wasn't much fuel in it. All 80 people should play the lottery ASAP.
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They did, and they all won.
No way to prove this I guess, but I bet if that same scenario happened 1000 times that in 999 of them a lot of people (if not every one of them) would die.
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