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Please try your best to not divert from the question.

Has it been scientifically proven that it's not a choice or is it strictly your opinion based on somebody's experience? Are you going to answer that question?

Already answered the question. If you don't like the answer that's not my problem.
 
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Already answered the question. If you don't like the answer that's not my problem.



It cannot be proven scientifically and everyone reading this thread knows it. No, you have to trust by faith that it's true; after all it must be true because you know of stories of people who are sad about being gay. Therefore, you have to be right!

Case closed!
 
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Every religion in the world claims to have had some great transformation. This is not proof that the Christian god is the real one. Couldn’t the belief in a god and going to heaven give you some imaginary hope, thus changing your mindset? Just the very thought that the creator of the universe loves you could be life changing if you convince yourself of it. (brainwash)

I love being an athiest. You don’t have to live under constant guilt. You don’t have a god to blame or thank. You take account for your own actions and don’t rely on a “get out of hell” card when you do something wrong.

Some of you Christians claim to be changed. Yet, i don’t see how you are any different than anyone else here. You lust, backbite, hate and judge without hesitation. I mean, the “greatest christian in the world” couldn’t have a conversation with me about his god without having to imagine i was a woman he could lust to. Changed? lol sssuurrreee
 

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I'm sure we can all remember that fateful day as a child when we chose to be straight. skidadl you're full of great points.
 
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Every religion in the world claims to have had some great transformation. This is not proof that the Christian god is the real one. Couldn’t the belief in a god and going to heaven give you some imaginary hope, thus changing your mindset? Just the very thought that the creator of the universe loves you could be life changing if you convince yourself of it. (brainwash)

I love being an athiest. You don’t have to live under constant guilt. You don’t have a god to blame or thank. You take account for your own actions and don’t rely on a “get out of hell” card when you do something wrong.

Some of you Christians claim to be changed. Yet, i don’t see how you are any different than anyone else here. You lust, backbite, hate and judge without hesitation. I mean, the “greatest christian in the world” couldn’t have a conversation with me about his god without having to imagine i was a woman he could lust to. Changed? lol sssuurrreee

Transformation is not proof that there the Christian God is the real one. Matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone here try to prove that there is a god at all.

As far as still sinning oh buddy, do I agree with you. I don't believe in God because I stopped sinning. That's a retarded notion. Matter of fact, that's opposite of what I am saying. I believe in God because I am 100% positive that I will, lol.

More misconceptions...~sigh~

As I said earlier, if you have no need then live it up! Christianity is for people who have needs. If that's not you then continue you will never mix with Christianity.
 
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I'm sure we can all remember that fateful day as a child when we chose to be straight. skidadl you're full of great points.

I respect your faith, bro. Just keep your faith out of politics, ok? Faith has no business there! Your faith, or unproven theory/fairy tale based on emotion, but not facts shouldn't be forced on us via the government.
 
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I was wondering if anyone here could tell me, is there a way to prove that homosexuality is a not a choice?

Personal experiences should be left out of those arguments because they have no place here in reality where fairly tales are not allowed.

I'm talking p.r.o.o.f.
 

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I respect your faith, bro. Just keep your faith out of politics, ok? Faith has no business there! Your faith, or unproven theory/fairy tale based on emotion, but not facts shouldn't be forced on us via the government.

You might be retarded.

Why I want to punch anyone who says "hate the sin not the sinner" in the face. As though you can separate your sexuality from your being and still live a happy life.
 
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So you are saying it can't be proven or it can?

I've looked through the last few pages and cannot find it.
 
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Transformation is not proof that there the Christian God is the real one. Matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone here try to prove that there is a god at all.

As far as still sinning oh buddy, do I agree with you. I don't believe in God because I stopped sinning. That's a retarded notion. Matter of fact, that's opposite of what I am saying. I believe in God because I am 100% positive that I will, lol.

More misconceptions...~sigh~

As I said earlier, if you have no need then live it up! Christianity is for people who have needs. If that's not you then continue you will never mix with Christianity.

Christians should be living above others on every level. They have the fucking holy spirit living inside them. God inside them, right? Non-believers are children of the devil, there should be an obvious difference.

Everyone has needs btw. You think i wouldn’t mind having a god to bail me out of a tight situation? You don’t think i want to live forever? I have only one request i made over 11 years ago. God show yourself to me. Saul needed it. Doubting Thomas needed it. I need it. Needless to say, i am still waiting.
 
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Christians should be living above others on every level. They have the fucking holy spirit living inside them. God inside them, right? Non-believers are children of the devil, there should be an obvious difference.

Well, it's kinda part of the point that I was making earlier...which is that the American church has lost much of it's power.

But still, you will see redeemed Christians acting like idiots. All of them.
 
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Well, it's kinda part of the point that I was making earlier...which is that the American church has lost much of it's power.

But still, you will see redeemed Christians acting like idiots. All of them.

It’s proof its not real. There is no lasting power. People get on an emotional high but then fall flat on their face. If someone wants to change their life, they need to apply sound principles. Everything is a habit and trying to break and form new ones.
 
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Here are the choices for you, SP.

1) Yes it can be proven

2) No it cannot be proven


All you have to do is type the number. Come on, you can do it. It'll make you feel better.
 
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It’s proof its not real. There is no lasting power. People get on an emotional high but then fall flat on their face. If someone wants to change their life, they need to apply sound principles. Everything is a habit and trying to break and form new ones.

Sweet, so after all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth you finally proved that god is not real?
 

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Here are the choices for you, SP.

1) Yes it can be proven

2) No it cannot be proven


All you have to do is type the number. Come on, you can do it. It'll make you feel better.

We understand many of the factors that influence sexual orientation. Or at least we can draw statistical correlation. But I'm not sure if that's what you're asking, because I already said that yet you continue to harp.

Which is why I keep asking if you chose to be straight. The only evidence on whether or not a choice was made resides in the consciousness of each person. So what you would need is some sort of extensive survey that asks the question "Did you choose your sexual orientation." I don't know for certain but I imagine the response would be overwhelmingly "No" by gay and straight alike. Which is why the teaching of hate the sin and not the sinner is so harmful as I outlined earlier since our sexuality is such a huge part of who we are - from adolescence toward choosing a mate.
 
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